
Fluent•ish the Podcast: S1E8 Show Notes
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Grammar doesn’t have to be your enemy. In this episode of Fluent•ish, we tackle one of the biggest emotional barriers in language learning: grammar dread. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, discouraged, or just plain bored by grammar, this episode is for you.
Key insights in this episode
- Why memorizing grammar rules doesn’t work as well as you'd think
- Whether grammar is essential to fluency
- What causes grammar to feel harder in a second language
- The most useful grammar points to learn first
- How to make grammar practice more engaging
- Whether speaking or writing is better for grammar development
- What to do if you keep making the same mistakes
- Which should come first: grammar or vocabulary?
We featured insights from:
- Diane Larsen-Freeman on “grammaring” as a practical skill
- Michael Swan on learning grammar through use, not theory
- Rod Ellis on the impact of your first language
- H. Douglas Brown on focusing on what’s actually useful
- Patsy Lightbown & Nina Spada on real-world, task-based learning
- Merrill Swain on the power of output
- Larry Selinker on fossilization and how to move past it
- Michael Lewis on learning grammar and vocabulary together
Your Joy Builder: the takeaway
Because Michael Swan says, “It is entirely possible to develop considerable proficiency in a language without much explicit knowledge of grammar at all," and Lightbrown and Spada say “Tasks that involve real-world use of language—like storytelling, role-playing, or problem-solving—allow learners to develop grammatical competence in an engaging, meaningful context,” you now know that you don’t need to rely as strongly on your textbook and it is absolutely worth your time to seek out real world activities and tasks to engage in in your target language even if you think you “aren’t ready yet”. And, as Diane Larsen-Freeman says, because it’s best to learn “through repeated exposure in context”, that “real world” context can also at times be provided by watching TV and movies, so even if some days you are feeling too lazy to use your productive skills (speaking and writing), you still have a backup - we give you permission to veg out with your favourite show or videos like the cooking show Rebecca was talking about!
Links
- Episode 8 is brought to you by Flodesk
- Episode 8 is brought to you by Shopify
- Theme music is provided by Milk Fangs
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Reminders and acknowledgements
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Fluent•ish the Podcast is brought to you by Little Crab Educational Press. Thank you to the language learning communities on BlueSky, Reddit, and Instagram for sharing openly about the struggles that people have to overcome to persevere in the pursuit of becoming fluent (or fluentish) in an additional language. Remember to Subscribe, Rate, Review, and Share from wherever you get this podcast.
Fluent•ish the Podcast is recorded remotely (most of the time) between Victoria and Vancouver which sit in the unceded traditional territories of several Coast Salish nations, across which we are grateful to live and work.